Curse

I Might Avenge U · Apr 07, 2006, 04:06 PM // 16:06

turbobusa,svovler,& Nightengale. If u guys put me on ur FL and I happen to be when u are(and if on a good comp) I can show u how to do it if u want. I may not pull it off(for some reason it seams to be alot harder to do with 2 ppl) but I can show u how to do it

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P.S. lol grawl genocide. btw thanks for all the help with this post jack

Look Alive · Apr 07, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58

At first I thought only of this farmingbuild as cheap fun, but now I actually make quite alot of cash on it!

If i assume that each run killing all the main crawls takes 10 minutes, I make about 8k an hour.. These 10 minutes include time identifying all the items, buying ID kits, selling stuff, picking up stuff, going out and in of Port Sledge waiting for a spawn with no Ele boss(blind+oath shot=death) and no crawls where I need my eoe.

The whole build became incredibly much easier when I got myself another BM mask to switch for, so that my eoe actually got up to 50 damage. At 26 damage or so, all it did was kill the crawls standing around me. The crones didnt really notice it that much

Now, its my favorite farm build. Thanks for creating this

Jack Valmont · Apr 08, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55

You're welcome.

I found something interesting. This is a more descriptive way of explaining it.

The Grawl Genocide Run

It doesn't matter whether what Area of Effect spell you use, just as long as it does at least 20+ damage to the people around you.

Get outside, use Dodge to get where you need to go.

Once you lay down the Edge of Extinction, use Troll Unguent and then run between the hills. By the time you get through the hill, Dodge should be ready to use again use it. Strafe back and forth and attract as many people as possible. Start heading towards the hill with 5 seconds left to go on your Dodge. At the bottom of the hill, slap on Lightning Reflexes/Dryder's Reflexes (whichever has more time).

The trick is staying alive at the top of the hill. One more thing, don't go to the very peak of the hill. What you want to do is get the Grawl spellcasters as close to the EoE as possible. Instead of going to the very top, go off to the farside (closer to the boss and the respawn alter). Lightning Reflexes/Dryder's Defences should be running out either moment.

Once we get up the hill, use Troll Unguent again. Press [C] and make sure you're targetting the closest crawl to you, use Toss Dirt and then use your Oath Shot. Now when you do this, make sure you time it so that you have Toss Dirt in queue right after Troll Unguent, and then once Troll Unguent starts regening, use Toss Dirt and then have your Oath Shot in queue. By this time, a whole group of Grawl should be taking damage like nothing else and should be around 3/4 to 1/2 full health.

After your Oath Shot hits, use Toss Dirt again, then Symbol of Wrath/Mark of Pain (or whatever other AoE spell you happen to have...I'm thinking some Elementalist spells might work). Your Troll Unguent should be blinking at this point, DO NOT LET IT RUN OUT. By this time, your Whirling Defences should be near ending, make sure you keep that running as well.

The Grawl should be near dead by now. If you have to use your Oath Shot agian, you probably haven't gotten your +30 extra attribute points. You're probably just like me.

My IGN is Jack Valmont, I'm always looking for new friends to talk too, if you're hanging around in the morning (about 6 a.m. EST) let me know and say hello.

fusiom · Apr 08, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14

yeha man i got it once - but i really want to define this run.. i feel i might be doing it wrong...

After i have laid EoE for 50 damage... i swith to expertise mask... which leads to my stats looking like this ----->

CURSES---5
BEAST---11
EXPERT----12
WILDERNESS----11

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try this out and tell me where im going wrong - if i am at all

fusiom · Apr 08, 2006, 06:20 PM // 18:20

also ----- GROWL CRONES arent following me --- HOW DO I DEAL WITH THAT?

Jack Valmont · Apr 08, 2006, 07:49 PM // 19:49

Attract their mob.

Asrial · Apr 08, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Put on some crone attracting cologne.

Jack Valmont · Apr 08, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asrial

Put on some crone attracting cologne.

And make sure you give them "the look."

By the way, this is the general skillset you need for the above and the type of spell incase you feel like you need to subsitute.

Troll Unguent (+8 Regeneration)
Throw Dirt (No subsitution)
Mark Of Pain/Symbol of Wrath (Area of Effect, need at least +20 damage)
Lightning Reflexes/Dryder's Defences (+9 to +10 seconds of 75% dodge)
Whirling Defences (+19 seconds of 75% Dodge and +11 Damage to surrounding Grawl
Oath Shot (No plausible subsitution)
Edge of Extinction (+43 to +50 Damage, no less)
Dodge (75% dodge + speed increase)

Remember, make it so you use Lightning Reflexes/Dryder's Defences at the bottom of the hill so that it will give them time to effectively crowd around you so that they don't run as much from Mark Of Pain/Symbol of Wrath.

Fay Vert · Apr 09, 2006, 02:21 AM // 02:21

Why won't anyone who can do this as regularly as they claim post their attribute build up, including runes? It's been asked for in various threads on this sublect, but only the OP has posted a half build that is not possible to attain.

Runes and attributes please. I have about 4 combinations that work, but not with the same success rates as some are claiming.

I'd also like to point out that the success rates claimed are not realistic.

For starters, there is EoE spot spawn. Grawls in this area = fail, this happens about 1 in 4. (25%) Okay, it's easy to just pop back into PS and respawn it, but when you get it about 5 times in a row it gets a bit tedious.

Next is the boss spawn. If you get the Ele (17%), forget it, and if you get the Monk or Necro (33%) then it's much harder, especially the monk. I've even had the ranger interrupt my Trolls!

Finally the total of grawl hammers varies quite a bit, sometimes there are just not enough of them, not to trigger the mass extinction. I know it's not just that I am not pulling them, as sometimes I abort the run if it looks too light and look around for them, they ain't there! This seems to happen something like 10% of the time. Sometimes there are tooooooo many of the flipping things, I think I have a perfect run going, no mess ups with skills, I get to the top of the hill, turn round and drop dead as there are about twice as many as I can tank there!

All in all, I would say if you can do better than 1 in 4 you are getting it about as good as it gets. I'd love to be proved wrong, I think this is a great and fun thing to pull off, but I just don't believe a lot of the claims being made.

Look Alive · Apr 09, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24

First of all, theres no point trying the run if you see that theres crawl in the EoE area. Just turn around, and run back into Port. The same goes for the ele-boss, which gives you blind, and you have like 5% chance of hitting the crawls with Oath Shot.The monk boss is the best spawn of all if you ask me, seeing that all it does is put some protection spell on one of the crawls, that buhu wont die, i dont really care. The necro boss and ranger boss only gives me degen, though I have found the warrior boss giving knockdowns, which could very well mean death.

So, if I spawn any of the right bosses, and no crawls in that area where i put the EoE, i feel that I can do it in like 70% of the times. And i too, have found it just as effective not going up the hill but merely standing between the boss hill and our hill..

Heres my attributes and runes, if u liek

curses: 4
BM: 15 (11+superior+mask)
Expertice: 11 (10+1)
Wilderness: 12 (8+4)

I use a bow that gives -2 damage while in a stance, and I would like to put a +5 defence thingy on it aswell, but I need the pruning mod for FoW farming

And i have done one of the 15 attrib quests.

Lectic · Apr 09, 2006, 10:03 AM // 10:03

Wouldnt Barrage work better instead of oath shot ? You wouldnt need symbol of wrath so u could use live vicarously to make it a bit easier .

I mean killing 6 grawls ( no more because barrage can hit max6 ) will still cause a chain reaction , or not? How much life do they have?

Jack Valmont · Apr 09, 2006, 10:54 AM // 10:54

Their armor rating is too high to do this before Whirling Defence runs out. I've tried.

ghostlyranger · Apr 09, 2006, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fay Vert

Why won't anyone who can do this as regularly as they claim post their attribute build up, including runes? It's been asked for in various threads on this sublect, but only the OP has posted a half build that is not possible to attain.

Runes and attributes please. I have about 4 combinations that work, but not with the same success rates as some are claiming.

I'd also like to point out that the success rates claimed are not realistic.

For starters, there is EoE spot spawn. Grawls in this area = fail, this happens about 1 in 4. (25%) Okay, it's easy to just pop back into PS and respawn it, but when you get it about 5 times in a row it gets a bit tedious.

Next is the boss spawn. If you get the Ele (17%), forget it, and if you get the Monk or Necro (33%) then it's much harder, especially the monk. I've even had the ranger interrupt my Trolls!

Finally the total of grawl hammers varies quite a bit, sometimes there are just not enough of them, not to trigger the mass extinction. I know it's not just that I am not pulling them, as sometimes I abort the run if it looks too light and look around for them, they ain't there! This seems to happen something like 10% of the time. Sometimes there are tooooooo many of the flipping things, I think I have a perfect run going, no mess ups with skills, I get to the top of the hill, turn round and drop dead as there are about twice as many as I can tank there!

All in all, I would say if you can do better than 1 in 4 you are getting it about as good as it gets. I'd love to be proved wrong, I think this is a great and fun thing to pull off, but I just don't believe a lot of the claims being made.

haha, is not just you only.

when someone show me about this method few months ago, i alraedy notice it is quite depend on spawn.

i prefer just to make a stance r/w go out and kill some shit. atleast it work everytime.

SnoopJeDi · Apr 09, 2006, 01:30 PM // 13:30

I tried a run using SS instead of oath shot, with about 7 curses, high BM, high expertise (sup rune + mask), and the rest in wilderness survival. I think you could easily bump BM higher, for the cost of EoE.

Anyway, I did the run just as it's seen in the video and as others describe it, except I use SS on the grawl instead of oath shotting+AoE. I didn't get a big enough bang from EoE to make it matter, but I killed a few without any big problems. Worth a thought.

cryoes · Apr 09, 2006, 01:38 PM // 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostlyranger

http://media.putfile.com/Bodies_000181

Too bad that cant be done anymore becuase the monsters would have run away so.. not very impressive because it wasn't hard to do before the patch.

scars of insanity · Apr 09, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40

i find mark of pain way better than most other eoe spells. the 30 dmg to adjacent if they take physical is good. expecially since with whirling defense your sending out tons of physical dmg each second making MoP trigger about 5 times per second.

Oath Shot
Troll
Dryers
Whirling
Dodge
Mark of Pain
Throw Dirt
EoE

Set up with expertize hat.
Curses 10
Beast mastery 9
Wildy 10
Expertize 10

When you plant eoe switch to a beast mastery hat with the superior rune on it and it should boost beast mastery to 13 witch is 45dmg per death.

Jack Valmont · Apr 09, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryoes

Too bad that cant be done anymore becuase the monsters would have run away so.. not very impressive because it wasn't hard to do before the patch.

I still run this build. It's not as effective as Mark Of Pain, but as long as you allow the Grawl to group around you before hitting Whirling Defence, you shouldn't be good. They run from Whirling Defence just as much as they do as Mark Of Pain or Symbol of Wrath.

Lectic · Apr 10, 2006, 06:12 PM // 18:12

Ok so Ive tried this build , I just use symbol of wrath instead of mark of pain and killing the warriors seems pretty easy now , my problem is , I never kill the casters , NEVER .

Those 10 grawls around me die and than the rest ( 15 grawl shamans or what theyr called ) keep on shooting me that sometimes I dont even collect the loot from warriors

. Ive got EoE with dmg 50 , I dunno how can I make it so I kill the casters too? I wanna kill everybody

Rogier · Apr 10, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

amazing! GJ on the build, and the video is amazing!

Lectic · Apr 10, 2006, 09:44 PM // 21:44

I dont get it I lay down EoE closer to the mountain u go up , but I never get the crones , never ! I dont get it .. maybe they increased their shoot range and they dont need to be so close now .. or I dunno .. Ive got BM 15 ... .. Is there a way I can make them go up the mountain a bit or some tactics ? Ill try tommorow not to go the the mountain go to , but the one before .